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		<title>By: Rob Glidden</title>
		<link>http://www.robglidden.com/2009/02/mpeg-at-20/comment-page-1/#comment-49</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Glidden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 18:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many standards groups continue to be dominated by patent interests, which can make moot the alternative &quot;ex ante&quot; process of before-the-fact consideration of patents as authorized by anti-trust authorities (versus the myth of after-the-fact patent pool essentiality determination), because &quot;foxes are guarding the hen house&quot; in the first place.  

Problematic on many levels, just one is that government has actively mandated and &quot;become increasingly dependent on private sector standards&quot; without adequate safeguards, see see brief at:
http://www.consortiuminfo.org/standardsblog/article.php?story=20081224070437637&amp;query=Rambus

In any event, patents expire and put technology and its description into the public arena -- this is at the heart of their reason for being -- whatever the many opinions about the interplay between patents, patent pools, and policy.

So this thinking parallels the OMS Video codec specification&#039;s royalty-free methodology -- start from a known royalty-free base and build up, adding only royalty-free methods.

OMS Video specification starts from the very closely related h.261 specification on which MPEG-1 was closely based, and arrives at an interestingly similar place. 

To quote Wikipedia:

&quot;In fact, all subsequent international video coding standards (MPEG-1 Part 2, H.262/MPEG-2 Part 2, H.263, MPEG-4 Part 2, and H.264/MPEG-4 Part 10) have been based closely on the H.261 design.&quot; 

... &quot;[MPEG-1] is heavily based on H.261&quot;.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.261
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-1#Part_2:_Video

The OMS Video specification is described at  http://www.robglidden.com/2008/12/oms-video-draft/.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many standards groups continue to be dominated by patent interests, which can make moot the alternative &#8220;ex ante&#8221; process of before-the-fact consideration of patents as authorized by anti-trust authorities (versus the myth of after-the-fact patent pool essentiality determination), because &#8220;foxes are guarding the hen house&#8221; in the first place.  </p>
<p>Problematic on many levels, just one is that government has actively mandated and &#8220;become increasingly dependent on private sector standards&#8221; without adequate safeguards, see see brief at:<br />
<a href="http://www.consortiuminfo.org/standardsblog/article.php?story=20081224070437637&amp;query=Rambus" rel="nofollow">http://www.consortiuminfo.org/standardsblog/article.php?story=20081224070437637&amp;query=Rambus</a></p>
<p>In any event, patents expire and put technology and its description into the public arena &#8212; this is at the heart of their reason for being &#8212; whatever the many opinions about the interplay between patents, patent pools, and policy.</p>
<p>So this thinking parallels the OMS Video codec specification&#8217;s royalty-free methodology &#8212; start from a known royalty-free base and build up, adding only royalty-free methods.</p>
<p>OMS Video specification starts from the very closely related h.261 specification on which MPEG-1 was closely based, and arrives at an interestingly similar place. </p>
<p>To quote Wikipedia:</p>
<p>&#8220;In fact, all subsequent international video coding standards (MPEG-1 Part 2, H.262/MPEG-2 Part 2, H.263, MPEG-4 Part 2, and H.264/MPEG-4 Part 10) have been based closely on the H.261 design.&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8230; &#8220;[MPEG-1] is heavily based on H.261&#8243;.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.261" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.261</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-1#Part_2:_Video" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-1#Part_2:_Video</a></p>
<p>The OMS Video specification is described at  <a href="http://www.robglidden.com/2008/12/oms-video-draft/" rel="nofollow">http://www.robglidden.com/2008/12/oms-video-draft/</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Cogliati</title>
		<link>http://www.robglidden.com/2009/02/mpeg-at-20/comment-page-1/#comment-47</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Cogliati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 04:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is an interesting article on the attempt to get a royalty free subset of h.264.  It is too bad that the effort failed.  

For MPEG-1 in particular, my current guess is that a royalty free (RF) profile might be as simple as stating that there can&#039;t be any B or D frames  and no layer 3 audio.  (This would have the side effect of making MPEG-1 RF quite a bit easier to program a decoder for.)

Rant mode on:
It seems like there is something wrong with the patent system when you have to go to so much effort just to figure out what technology is actually covered by a patent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is an interesting article on the attempt to get a royalty free subset of h.264.  It is too bad that the effort failed.  </p>
<p>For MPEG-1 in particular, my current guess is that a royalty free (RF) profile might be as simple as stating that there can&#8217;t be any B or D frames  and no layer 3 audio.  (This would have the side effect of making MPEG-1 RF quite a bit easier to program a decoder for.)</p>
<p>Rant mode on:<br />
It seems like there is something wrong with the patent system when you have to go to so much effort just to figure out what technology is actually covered by a patent.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Glidden</title>
		<link>http://www.robglidden.com/2009/02/mpeg-at-20/comment-page-1/#comment-43</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Glidden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 18:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some standards organizations either do not have, or may be dominated by interests who do not want, a royalty-free subset or baseline of their specification.  A royalty-free baseline for h.264 was proposed in 2003, see http://www.imtc.org/press/pressrel/press022003.asp, and there are other parallels.  One must also consider copyright ownership of the specification itself, which in a case of reluctance might limit other organizations from taking it on itself to define a specifically-named subset in an attempt to leverage a standard &quot;brand&quot;.  There are cases of &quot;orphaned&quot; standards of disbanded groups, see www.davic.org.

Examining claim constructions, prior art (and subsequent) references in a patent itself, a patent&#039;s prosecution history, deltas between multiple country filings, and continuations and divisions can provide important insight into what technology is actually covered by a particular patent or thicket, and time frames.  In other words, a patent builds on something -- that something is relevant, and one might find that the &quot;last to expire&quot; may be the &quot;least useful detail&quot; rather than the &quot;final essential building block&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some standards organizations either do not have, or may be dominated by interests who do not want, a royalty-free subset or baseline of their specification.  A royalty-free baseline for h.264 was proposed in 2003, see <a href="http://www.imtc.org/press/pressrel/press022003.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.imtc.org/press/pressrel/press022003.asp</a>, and there are other parallels.  One must also consider copyright ownership of the specification itself, which in a case of reluctance might limit other organizations from taking it on itself to define a specifically-named subset in an attempt to leverage a standard &#8220;brand&#8221;.  There are cases of &#8220;orphaned&#8221; standards of disbanded groups, see <a href="http://www.davic.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.davic.org</a>.</p>
<p>Examining claim constructions, prior art (and subsequent) references in a patent itself, a patent&#8217;s prosecution history, deltas between multiple country filings, and continuations and divisions can provide important insight into what technology is actually covered by a particular patent or thicket, and time frames.  In other words, a patent builds on something &#8212; that something is relevant, and one might find that the &#8220;last to expire&#8221; may be the &#8220;least useful detail&#8221; rather than the &#8220;final essential building block&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Cogliati</title>
		<link>http://www.robglidden.com/2009/02/mpeg-at-20/comment-page-1/#comment-42</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Cogliati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 16:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>3.5 billion MPEG-2 devices is one reason I would love a royalty free subset of either MPEG-1 or MPEG-2 so that it would be possible to create video for these things with open source software.  In the worst case I guess we just wait till about 2012 and then all the patents should be expired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3.5 billion MPEG-2 devices is one reason I would love a royalty free subset of either MPEG-1 or MPEG-2 so that it would be possible to create video for these things with open source software.  In the worst case I guess we just wait till about 2012 and then all the patents should be expired.</p>
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